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The pile on of attacks you received for that was totally ridiculous and out of line, and I agree with much of your sentiments here! I am basically on your side. But I think there are a few more broad points I'd like to try to convince you of:

1. I don't think you should compare Bsky to X in terms of personal outcomes, but rather, you should compare them in terms of their structural designs. We should dismiss X as a social media platform for science because of the structural issue with it, not because of our personal experiences. X was explicitly bought and is now designed by Elon Musk, who is clearly a far right white supremacist ideologue, for the purpose of spreading his personal ideology. That is simply why the website exists at this point: it is its structural purpose. I don't think any individual component of that is controversial at this point! (And if you would like evidence, e.g. you think Elon Musk is not a white supremacist, and not far-right, and that X is not explicitly designed now to promote these views, let me know! We can talk about it further!)

But because of that, X is categorically unfit for science communication and science community building. It simply has no place in the scientific community: it explicitly exists to distort the truth. Folks can disagree on bluesky or mastodon or linkedin or blogs or in the real world, and that disagreement can be nasty, but the thing that makes X different from all of those is this straightforward structural reason which is antithetical to a scientific community that values empirical truth and fair inquiry. It is my sincere hope that you can reconsider staying on X and delete your X account.

2. I think you are misattributing the attacks you received, especially the nastiest comments, to the academic community. Look at the posts: almost all of the nastiest ones are from anonymous accounts or non-academics. I don't think it is fair to say that this set of comments represents the discourse "in academia", or that academics are toxic!

This is clearly a problem that stems from anonymous accounts and the general community on bsky, not (most of the time - there are certainly some exceptions) academics.

3. I think you have misread the academic community's actual opinions on AI usage. In my experience - and I'm pretty sure surveys would show this - LLM usage is broadly accepted, normal, and near universal in academic STEM fields at the moment! I think it's hard to square that with the conception that academia is "anti-AI".

There are ongoing - and should be, I know you will agree - important discussions on how to avoid being lazy when using AI, how to maintain rigor, how to maintain skepticism, how to test the results of coding agents. We need reasonable skepticism and intelligent approaches to using agents.

4. Finally, some practical advice. My guess is that this pile-on occurred because your post was quoted by some large accounts. When this starts to happen, you have the option to 'detach' your post from the quote post. This can make it harder for a crowd to follow the chain and prevents the viral blowup.

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People can be so ridiculous. Of course, scientists should be using AI tools and discussing it. Normalizing disclosures would help. And there may be some that simply don't want to go there. I think that's okay.

Also, I had a solid lol at the fried brains part!

I think the biggest problem is that nuance itself is something of an endangered species these days.

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